The seventeen year ten month career of D7527/25177 saw allocations to a few London Midland Region depots.
Built: BR Derby Locomotive Works.
Boiler room grilles sheeted over (1980).
Final exhaust roof panel: raised, square.
Time between last Classified repair and withdrawal: 45 months.
Time between withdrawal & scrapping: 41 months.
Allocations
D7527 was new to Nottingham Division (D16) on January 30th 1965. Further transfers were:
October 1971 to London Division (D01).
May 1973 to Willesden.
June 1975 to Cricklewood.
Withdrawn November 28th 1982.
Renumbered March 30th 1974.
25177 was the 146th Class 25 withdrawn, one of twelve retired during November 1982, including sisters 25179 & 25180.
After withdrawal 25177 reached Stratford by December 1982 and would be used in rerailing exercises at the Stratford Open Day on July 9th 1983. It was moved to Temple Mills Yard for further rerailing exercises on March 26th 1984. It returned to Stratford then was taken again to Temple Mills on June 5th 1984 for breakdown tests, 25177 returned to Stratford the same day and then moved on to Reading, accompanying it were 08550 & 40092 as the 9Z28 Stratford - Swindon, reaching Swindon Works by June 14th 1984. 25177 was broken up by the first week of May 1986.
Works Visits
Works visits (records incomplete).
Noted Derby Works August 1968.
Noted Derby Works January & February 1973.
Noted Derby Works January - February 1979 (Classified).
Noted Derby Works February - May 1980 (collision repairs).
Highlights
1965
D7527 was delivered from Derby Works to the Midland Lines during January 1965 as part of the large fleet used to remove steam from the Midland Lines northwards.
On Sunday December 5th a visit to several East Midlands area installations produced the following Derby/Sulzer Type 2s:
Derby Works:
D5054, D 5087, D5135
D5166
D5268, D5298
D7562, D7564, D7598, D7602, D7566, D7567, D7576, D7588, D7599, D7600, D7601
Derby shed:
D5011
D5185, D5189, D5198, D5205, D5224, D5230, D5293
D7505, D7521, D7529, D7532, D7538, D7540, D7543, D7548, D7559, D7560, D7569, D7572, D7582, D7591, D7594, D7634
Toton shed:
D5186
D5201, D5228, D5231, D5235, D5237, D5240, D5242, D5256, D5259, D5261, D5265, D5267, D5272, D5280, D5284, D5285, D5287, D5288, D5299
D7504, D7527, D7542, D7544, D7545, D7558, D7561, D7571, D7577, D7579, D7597
Nottingham shed:
D5209, D5270, D5290
D7511, D7533, D7563
Colwich shed
D5195, D7554, D7557
1967
On the morning of May 18th D7527 was stabled at Derby.
1969
Condition April: two-tone green livery with full yellow cabfronts, 'D' prefix present.
1970
On the afternoon of June 12th 7527 & 7508 were noted at Small Heath with an up freight.
On July 4th 7527 worked the 08.30 Derby - Norwich.
1971
On August 7th 7527 worked the 14.20 Yarmouth - Derby between Yarmouth & Norwich.
1972
A journey from Leighton Buzzard to Crewe for the Works Open Day on August 9th included the following:
Bletchley: 7535, E3001, E3022
Rugby: 3024, 3188, 7566, E3004, E3011, E3076, E3079
Nuneaton: 7559, 7610
Rugeley: 5141
Stafford: 3870, 5143, E3023
Crewe station area (late morning):
162
200, 245, 300, 309, 379
402, 405, 414, 416, 420, 421, 433, 443, 444
1512, 1552, 1580, 1612, 1633, 1692, 1693, 1823, 1851, 1855, 1905, 1934, 1939, 1945, 1958
3031, 3217, 3232, 3290, 3291, 3801, 3861
5030, 5038, 5045, 5056, 5142
5246, 5288, 7635, 7636
E3003, E3023, E3059, E3061, E3062, E3071, E3076, E3082 (Class 86s omitted)
Crewe Works
201, 205, 239, 251, 280, 289, 302, 367, 393, 398
415
1504, 1516, 1519, 1520, 1530, 1533, 1534, 1542, 1543, 1545, 1580, 1590, 1601, 1621, 1626, 1634, 1641, 1646, 1654, 1659, 1670, 1675, 1694, 1702, 1709, 1813, 1836, 1844, 1848, 1856, 1858, 1892, 1931, 1940, 1948, 1987
3510
8070, 8115, 8170, 8176, 8307
26049, 76025
E3046-cond, E3084
E3150, '86501'
Crewe station area (afternoon):
221, 292, 316, 329, 382, 386
411, 419, 422, 424, 426 427, 440, 446
1654, 1842, 1847, 1952
3069, 3113, 3467, 3585, 3970
5029, 5047, 5049, 5052, 5057, 5092
5244, 7534
E3001, E3054, E3063, E3073, E3074, E3089
Stafford: 5024, 5079
Nuneaton: 3951, 5284, 7559
Bletchley: 7527, 7528.
On the afternoon of October 27th 7527 was stabled at Willesden.
1973
On February 23rd 7527 made a test run from Derby Works.
The snag sheet for February 23rd recorded:
| 7527; February 23rd 1973; time 1.50 | |||||
| Load | Speed | Amps | Volts | Notes | Other |
| 1 | - | - | - | - | - | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | 3 | 42 | - | 820 | - | - | 4 | 50 | - | 820 | - | - | 5 | 60 | - | 810 | - | - | 6 | 67 | - | 800 | - | - |
| Load | Speed | Amps | Volts | Notes | Other |
| 1 | - | - | - | - | - | 2 | 34 | - | 810 | - | - | 3 | 41 | - | 805 | - | - | 4 | 47 | - | 800 | - | - | 5 | - | - | 795 | - | - | 6 | 63 | - | 785 | - | - |
A Bank radiator tank empty
A Bank crankcase door
Rocker cover leak: 1, 3 & 4
FDR lift coil renew?
Circlip to fit on? spindle on No.2 DL.
1977
On March 6th 25137, 25177 & 25321 were light engines at Carlisle station.
On April 23rd 25177 was noted at Toton.
1978
On Thursday August 3rd 25177 worked the 12.25 Willesden to Norwood and (presumably) the 14.10 Norwood - Willesden.
On Tuesday October 10th 25177 worked the 09.55 Willesden to Norwood and (presumably) the 12.00 Norwood - Willesden.
Observations on the Midland main line on October 28th included:
25137, 25178, 25276 Cricklewood 10.20am
25053 southbound permanent way Bedford 11.00am
25177 & 25071 Bedford stabling point 11.00
25326 Wellingborough 11.25am
25245, 25270, 25312 Leicester shed 12.05pm
25137 northbound steel Derby 3.00pm
1979
25177 received a general repair during January & February at Derby.
On the morning of February 27th 25177 was noted at Derby.
A maintenance dispute brought many strangers into South Wales including a number of Class 25s. So noted towards the end of March were 25294 on the 14.46 Great Bridge - Llandeilo flats (21st), 25177 on oil tanks to Llandarcy oil terminal (April 2nd) as well as a number of light engine movements west of Cardiff, 25256 & 25312 (10th) and 25184 & 25194 (12th).
On March 24th the 13.35 Newcastle - Swansea was noted arriving at Cardiff behind 25177, it was replaced here by 47243. 25177 was stabled at Cardiff Canton on March 25th. On March 29th the 15.07 Plymouth - Manchester Piccadilly was worked between Gloucester & Birmingham New Street by 25177.
On the evening of March 30th and the morning of March 31st 25177 was stabled at Bristol Bath Road.
A maintenance dispute led to some unusual workings, so noted on April 2nd was 25177 with oil tanks for Llandarcy terminal. 25177 was stabled at Coventry on April 6th & 7th.
Observations on the Midland main line on the afternoon of April 25th included:
Cambridge Street (14.55) 25237
Cricklewood (15.00) 25310
St Albans (15.10) 25205 permanent way train and 25210 with another permanent way train
Luton (15.20) 25311 light engine, 25189 northbound goods and 25183 stabled at Luton 1520
Bedford shed (15.40) 25245 stabled
Wellingborough (15.55) 25177 stabled
Kettering (16.00) 25118 northbound goods
Leicester (16.25) 25134 southbound steel.
On June 8th the 15.15 Plymouth - Manchester Piccadilly was worked between Gloucester & Birmingham New Street by 25177. On June 30th the 08.52 Leicester - Skegness and the 12.32 Skegness - Leicester were worked by 25177 & 25214.
On the afternoon of July 23rd 25051 & 25177 were noted at Cricklewood with an electrification train.
On the morning of June 25th 25071, 25088, 25177 & 25189 were noted at Bedford.
On September 1st the 07.30 Nottingham - Llandudno Town was worked forward from Derby by 25177 (having replaced 31253) and worked the return 13.00 Llandudno Town - Nottingham to Derby where 31253 took over. On September 5th 25177 & 25158 worked the 09.28 Derby - Skegness and the 18.39 Skegness - Derby.
25177 was noted at Birkenhead Mollington Street on September 23rd.
1980
25177 was back at Derby from February to May, undergoing collision repairs, (it left the Works in October??).
1981
25177 was noted at Reddish on March 3rd.
A Liverpool - York special hauled by 850 'Lord Nelson' required the assistance of 25177 on Miles Platting bank on March 11th. 25177 was noted light engine at Manchester Victoria on March 14th.
In the early hours of April 8th a train of ammonia tanks partially derailed west of Hadfield station, with the ninth tank hitting the platform and becoming derailed. Two breakdown trains attended, 37128 from Tinsley and 25177 from Longsight (?), whilst 47214 arrived with empty tanks to transfer ammonia from the damaged vehicles. On the morning of April 25th 25177 was noted at Nuneaton with an up permanent way train.
25177 was noted at Stoke on Trent on May 28th.
On June 14th a returning day excursion from Weymouth to Shrewsbury failed at Banbury behind 47353, 25177 & 25071 removed the Class 47 and worked the train forward to Shrewsbury.
On July 11th the 08.35 Derby - Yarmouth to Norwich and the return 14.20 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich were worked by 25177 & 25220. On July 14th 25177 & 25158 worked the 09.28 Derby - Skegness and the return 18.40 Skegness - Derby. Two days later (16th) the same pair worked the 08.46 Burton on Trent - Skegness and the return 18.40 Skegness - Burton on Trent. On July 18th the 08.35 Derby - Yarmouth to Norwich and the return 14.20 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich were worked by 25177 & 25158.
On July 23rd Derby turned out 25177 & 25158 to work the 10.05 service to St Pancras, both were replaced at Bedford by a Peak after 25158 failed.
On the afternoon of September 10th 25177 was noted at Cricklewood.
The 16.36 Birmingham New Street - Norwich failed at Leicester behind 45150 on September 28th, the Class 45 was removed and 25177 worked the train to Norwich.
A heavily loaded 15.02 Bristol - Manchester parcels on October 9th used 25177 & 25179.
On the afternoon of November 27th 25177 was stabled at York.
1982
On February 2nd 25177 was eastbound at Guide Bridge with a short engineers train.
25177 was stabled at Cockshute on February 6th.
On the afternoon of March 18th 25177 was stabled at York.
On March 19th 25177 was noted at Manchester Victoria banking pilot.
On the morning of March 20th 25069, 25177 & 25282 were parked on London Road curve, Derby.
On May 1st 25177 was noted at Chester. On May 3rd a Nelson - Llandudno Town day excursion was worked forward from Chester by 25177, and handled the entire return leg.
On July 2nd 25177 worked the 09.45 Manchester Victoria - Blackpool North. On July 3rd 25177 went for a romp across Lancashire and Yorkshire, working the 06.50 Blackpool North - Manchester Victoria, followed by the 08.40 Manchester Victoria - Scarborough, the return working was covered by 40014. This was possibly 25177's last passenger working. On the morning of July 12th 25177 was stabled at York. On the evening of July 15th 25177 was stabled at York. 25177 was stabled at York on July 19th.
On August 5th 25177 was at Sheffield Midland with wagons of scrap for the Tinsley area.
On the morning of August 29th 25177 was stabled at Cambridge Road.
25177's career came to an end when it was retired in November, quickly being moved to Stratford for rerailing exercises, other Type 2's present here were condemned 25214 and ETH vehicle 24142.
1983
March would see 25177 & 40092 used in rerailing exercises at Temple Mills yard after which it would languish at Stratford, prior to dispatch to Swindon.
Its July 9th 1983 and the engineers at Stratford Open Day have 25177 on display as an example of how rolling stock is rerailed/lifted back on to the tracks. With the locomotive on its side there is ample opportunity to explore parts of the locomotive not normally visible. One traction motor is missing.
Distinguishing Features
Non BIS side: scrape along side from the plated over hand/footholds back towards the No.2 cab, about two feet above the frame: July 1982.
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