D7535, 7535, 25185
D7535, 7535, 25185

Hmmmm, not bad looking for a withdrawn locomotive, 25185 at Toton on December 3rd 1984 - see details below.
Photograph courtesy Steve Morris

The nineteen year eight month service life of D7535/25185 saw it allocated to a multitude of London Midland Region depots.

Built: BR Derby Locomotive Works.
Dual brake fitted (March 1978).
Final exhaust roof panel: raised, square.
Time between last Classified repair and withdrawal: 79 months.
Preserved.

Allocations

D7535 was new to the Nottingham Division (D16) on March 6th 1965. Further transfers were:

July 1969 to the London Division (Western Lines) (D01).
May 1970 to the Birmingham Division (D02).
July 1970 to the London Division (Western Lines) (D01).
December 1971 to the Birmingham Division (D02).
May 1973 to Bescot.
July 1973 to Willesden.
October 1974 to Toton.
March 1975 to Willesden.
June 1975 to Cricklewood.
January 1976 to Longsight.
October 1976 to Crewe.
May 1977 to Kingmoor.
February 1981 to Springs Branch.
April 1981 to store (at Toton).
May 1981 reinstated to Springs Branch.
October 1982 to Crewe.
Withdrawn November 5th 1984.

Renumbered February 28th 1974.

25185 was the 221st Class 25 withdrawn, one of six retired during November 1984.

After withdrawal 25185 was stored at Toton, having been sold to the Dart Valley Railway. It moved from Toton on February 13th/14th to its new home.

Works Visits

Works visits (records incomplete).

Noted Derby Works September 1971.
Noted Derby Works June 1973.
Noted Derby Works February & March 1978 (dual brake equipment fitted).

Highlights

1965
D7535 was new to the Nottingham area (then M16) in March, one of a large batch of Class 25s used to oust steam from the Midland mainline, northwards from St Pancras to Toton, and travelling east to March and west to the Birmingham area. As with the majority of the last batches of Type 2s there was no train heating equipment fitted, these were freight machines, though during the summer season their use on passenger workings was common and often over quite lengthy distances.

1966
On the afternoon of December 31st D7535 was light engine at Derby.

1967
On the afternoon of November 13th D7535 & D7543 were light engines at Eggington Junction.

1969
7535 & 7649 were noted on a Coalville - Littlehampton special on April 17th, it is not certain how far they worked.

1971
Condition February: two-tone green livery with full yellow cabfronts, 'D' prefixes present, original engine exhaust location.

On April 7th 7535 was noted derailed at Liverpool Lime Street, 5286 was in attendance with the tool van.

Part of September was spent at Derby Works under repair, by December 7535 was back working off the Birmingham Division (D02).

Photograph collection of webmaster.
Class 25 No.7535 & Class 20 No.8004 date and location unknown.

1972
A journey from Leighton Buzzard to Crewe for the Works Open Day on August 9th included the following:
Bletchley: 7535, E3001, E3022
Rugby: 3024, 3188, 7566, E3004, E3011, E3076, E3079
Nuneaton: 7559, 7610
Rugeley: 5141
Stafford: 3870, 5143, E3023
Crewe station area (late morning):
162
200, 245, 300, 309, 379
402, 405, 414, 416, 420, 421, 433, 443, 444
1512, 1552, 1580, 1612, 1633, 1692, 1693, 1823, 1851, 1855, 1905, 1934, 1939, 1945, 1958
3031, 3217, 3232, 3290, 3291, 3801, 3861
5030, 5038, 5045, 5056, 5142
5246, 5288, 7635, 7636
E3003, E3023, E3059, E3061, E3062, E3071, E3076, E3082 (Class 86s omitted)

Crewe Works
201, 205, 239, 251, 280, 289, 302, 367, 393, 398
415
1504, 1516, 1519, 1520, 1530, 1533, 1534, 1542, 1543, 1545, 1580, 1590, 1601, 1621, 1626, 1634, 1641, 1646, 1654, 1659, 1670, 1675, 1694, 1702, 1709, 1813, 1836, 1844, 1848, 1856, 1858, 1892, 1931, 1940, 1948, 1987
3510
8070, 8115, 8170, 8176, 8307
26049, 76025
E3046-cond, E3084
E3150, '86501'

Crewe station area (afternoon):
221, 292, 316, 329, 382, 386
411, 419, 422, 424, 426 427, 440, 446
1654, 1842, 1847, 1952
3069, 3113, 3467, 3585, 3970
5029, 5047, 5049, 5052, 5057, 5092
5244
7534
E3001, E3054, E3063, E3073, E3074, E3089

Stafford: 5024, 5079
Nuneaton: 3951, 5284, 7559
Bletchley: 7527, 7528.

1973
More time was spent at Derby Works during June, then it was off to Willesden again during July.

1974
On July 13th the Walsall - Norwich (for Yarmouth) - Derby diagram was worked by 25185 & 25305.

On July 21st 25185 was stabled at Willesden.

1975
25185 was noted at Manchester Victoria on January 24th.

On the morning of September 4th 25090 & 25185 were noted at Denton Junction with a down freight.

1976
25185 was handling local work out of Tyne Yard on March 17th.

On the morning of August 28th 25147 & 25185 were noted light engines at Manchester Victoria.

On September 18th 25185 was noted at Reddish.

On the late afternoon of October 16th noted at Guide Bridge were 25103, 25147, 25185, 25242, 25257 & 25326.

1977
On March 21st 25185 was light engine at Holywell Junction.

On the morning of March 26th 25129, 25153, 25185, 25220 were noted on Crewe diesel depot.

1978
On the evening of January 10th 25185 was stabled at York.

February and March were spent at Derby Works, the repair included the fitting of dual braking equipment. On March 18th the 12.07 Derby - St. Pancras with 45108 was piloted as far as Leicester by 25185 as a running-in turn.

On March 18th 25185 made a test run from Derby Works.

The snag sheet for March 18th recorded:

25185; March 18th 1978; with 45108 1C49 Derby
Load Speed Amps Volts Notes Other
1 27 920 - - -
2 35 900 - - -
3 43 900 - - -
4 51 930 - - -
5 63 950 - - -
6 70 1,000 - - -

Main generator flashover to check
Traction motors to check
Pistons passing oil
A side crankcase door free end
B side crankcase door generator end
No.3 HP fuel pipe to pump leak
Knecht fuel filter adaptor leak
Loco oleo buffer rams to clean
Paint to complete
Nos.1 & 2 ends cables chaffing on conduit
B side cubicle pipes vibrating badly
No.1 bogie air pipedriver's side not clipped
No.2 bogie air pipe driver's side air pipes are chaffing on one another
No.2 cab door unserviceable won't shut
Vacuum governor cover and screw to fit.

On May 13th 25185 was stabled at Skipton with an engineers train full of concrete panels.

1979
On the afternoon of October 12th 25185 was southbound at Derby with a coal train.

On November 13th a goods train split in two and became derailed near Middlewich. The 22.50 Shrewsbury - York was diverted over the freight only line between Arpley & Skelton, with 25185 assisting the Class 86.

1980
A diesel multiple unit failure on a morning Morecambe - Leeds service on March 1st saw 25185 assist throughout.

On the early afternoon of July 19th 25148 & 25185 were stabled at Workington.

1981
25185 was withdrawn briefly during February, but quickly reinstated to Springs Branch the same month.

On the afternoon of April 24th 25062, 25184, 25185 were noted at Saltley.

On the afternoon of May 1st 25199 & 25185 were noted at Crewe on up tanks.

On May 4th 25185 was stabled at Guide Bridge.

On June 27th the 08.40 Carlisle - Glasgow Central was worked by 25185.

An 'E' exam was carried out at Tyseley during August.

At 02.45 on August 18th 25185 arrived at Holbeck depot off the E51 turn. It also made two visits to the Stourton Freightline shunt, returning to Holbeck at 06.25am and 09.00am. It later went out on a special K59 trip, returning to Holbeck at 13.40.

On September 12th 25202 & 25185 were at March with a stone train from Mountsorrel.

On October 29th 25185 was noted at Bedlam Lane and Three Spires Junction with a short two wagon freight, plus brakevan, possibly the trip freight from Coventry.

1982
25185 & 25184 were stabled at Birkenhead Mollington Street on January 30th.

The reported passenger workings for 25185 increased considerably during 1982 compared to previous years. On May 4th 25185 worked the 17.26 Barrow - Carnforth following a diesel multiple unit failure.

On May 26th the 14.10 St. Pancras - Derby was worked forward from Wellingborough by 25185 assising ?? Three days later (29th) 25185 & 25120 worked the 07.40 Euston - Aberystwyth forward from Wolverhampton, returning with the 14.00 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury. On June 2nd 25185 worked the 20.40 Shrewsbury - Wolverhampton.

On June 1st 25185 was at Bescot with a train of empty merry-go-round wagons.

25185 was noted at Northwich on July 3rd.

On August 11th 25185 was at Birmingham New Street with loaded cartics.

A busy couple of days in August saw 25185 & 25097 active on Cambrian metals. On August 14th they worked the 10.10 Euston - Aberystwyth forward from Birmingham New Street, returning with the 16.05 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury. The next day (15th) they worked the 08.45 Birmingham New Street - Aberystwyth from Shrewsbury, then the 16.40 Aberystwyth - Machynlleth and the 17.25 return, before heading home with the 18.15 Aberystwyth - Euston to Wolverhampton.

On August 27th the 07.40 Norwich - Birmingham New Street failed at Nuneaton Midland Junction behind 31318, 25185 was used to push the train to Nuneaton Abbey Junction. On September 2nd the 08.25 Wolverhampton - Bournemouth excursion was worked between Banbury & Basingstoke by 25185.

The last transfer for 25185 came in October when it was transferred to Crewe.

1983
On February 19th 25185 was stabled at Northwich.

Edinburgh took advantage of Crewe allocated 25185 on February 26th, after arriving on a parcels service it was then noted on local empty coaching stock duties.

On March 13th 25185 was noted at Newton Heath.

An overcast March 19th 1983 finds a pair of 25s, led by 25185 sitting around at Newton Heath.
Photograph courtesy Tony Sayer

On May 4th 25185 was at Whitehaven shunting a set of merry-go-round wagons for loading coal from Haig pit.

With the power off for engineering work 25185 & 25195 assisted two electric services between Crewe & Preston on June 13th.

On July 5th 25185 was noted northbound at Lawrence Hill with an Up Nuclear Flask train.

25185 was noted northbound at Leicester on July 12th with passenger stock.

25185 was noted passing Cwmbran with oil (bitumen?) tanks on August 4th.

On August 10th 25185 & 25189 were northbound at Shap with a loaded salt train from Winsford presumably for a Scottish destination.

September 19th found the Mountsorrel - Elstow Redland stone working used 25044 & 25185, a working then normally in the hands of pairs of Class 31s. 25185 was noted passing Bishops Itchington with a lengthy freight on September 22nd.

Photograph courtesy Roger Geach.
Class 25 No.25185 at Euston on the morning of November 17th 1983.

On December 8th the 06.20 Wolverhampton - Paddington failed behind 47459 with 25191 assisting to Banbury. Here both locomotives were replaced by 25185 for the run to Paddington (also reported as 25182). On December 20th when the southern end of the WCML was having serious operating issues in the Hemel Hempstead area, the 08.10 Northampton - Euston was worked by 25185.

1984
Heavy snows on January 22nd in places to a depth of two feet blocked both the GSW & CR routes into Scotland, with drifts of fifteen feet being reported. Engineering work on the ECML was quickly postponed, although too late to prevent one ECML passenger train being diverted towards Carlisle, then having to retrace its steps after word of the snow blockages spread. The failure of the 23.40 Edinburgh/Glasgow - Bristol near Crawford was not helped by the rescuing locomotive becoming stuck in a sizeable snowdrift. The gale force winds did nothing to help matters, quickly undoing the arduous work of the snowploughs. The down 'Clansman' became stuck at Dalwhinnie, somehow an ex-Glasgow service forced its way alongside taking all the passengers to Inverness. It was several days before the stock of the 'Clansman' was freed from the snow. In later snow clearing operations here 26044 suffered serious fire damage, leading to withdrawal. The most affected train was an overnight Inverness - Euston service that was initially diverted via Aberdeen, suffered a partial locomotive failure, reached Motherwell only to find the way south blocked. A circumnavigation of the Hamilton circle found the train headed for Kilmarnock and the GSW route to Carlisle, having taken fifteen hours to cross the border. The 23rd's 10.15 Euston - Glasgow used 25185 & 25212 between Carlisle & Newcastle, since nothing was available at Newcastle to replace the Type 2s the train was terminated here, with the empty coaching stock returning to Carlisle. Many services were cancelled, others running many hours late, to ease the problems all freights north of Carlisle were cancelled.

On February 5th 25185 was noted at Stockport on a permanent way train. 25185 was stabled at Saltley on February 19th.

25185 was noted at Preston on April 27th.

On June 9th 25185 worked the 15.20 Manchester - Bristol parcels, normally a Class 47 turn. 25185 was stabled at Cardiff Canton on June 10th. On June 23rd a freightliner was noted arriving at Bescot behind 25205, 25185 & 25xxx.

25185 was noted at Edge Hill with parcels stock on July 30th.

A working once familiar to the Class 25s was seeing a greater use of other classes, the 18.12 Manchester - St Pancras parcels, as far as Derby, 25185 handled this working on August 1st.

25185 was noted light engine at Nuneaton on August 12th.

On October 20th 25185 was recieving attention at Cricklewood.

The end came for 25185 in November at Cricklewood being stopped with a traction motor fault, it soon reached Toton for storage. However the locomotive was chosen as the basis for a 'Heavy Maintenance' course utilising small teams to carry out the equivalent of a C exam plus repairs.

The second team to complete this session (featured in the photograph below) had charge of the locomotive from November 12th to December 7th 1984. The C exam was completed, additionally several pistons and liners were removed due to low compression, the piston rings were renewed. The traction motor fault that had condemned the locomotive was investigated, the number 4 motor interpole cables were found to be to earth, causing the locomotive to run on only two motors. Although diagnosed the team were not permitted to change the motor.

Following the mechanical review of the locomotive two of the team gave 25185 a good clean, repainting the yellow cabfronts and the red buffer beams. To confirm the operational status of the locomotive a test run was made to Westhouses, albeit on the two good traction motors. The first team had also made a test run, the locomotive carrying an unofficial name 'Realfright'.

After this treatment 25185 returned to its slumbers as Toton, but it was not to go the way of the majority, preservation was in the future for D7535/25185.

1986
The second Class 25 to be preserved, 25185 made its last BR journey on February 13/14th when it ran under its own power from Toton to the Dart Valley Railway at Paignton.

Photograph courtesy Steve Morris.
D7535 / 25185 on test, seen at Westhouses.

Photograph courtesy Steve Morris.
A view from the cab of D7535 / 25185 during the test run (presumably somewhere between Pye Bridge & Bennerley).

Photograph courtesy Steve Morris.
D7535 / 25185 and its 'Heavy Maintenance' team, who were Steve Morris, Rigby Wason, Alistair Sinclair, Colin Morris, John Tyler & Mike Wright.

With thanks to Steve Morris for the information and photographs of 25185's post-withdrawal activities. It is believed that on its two test runs there were a number of lineside photographers who might have photographed this unusual working. Steve would be most interested in any views of these workings - Thank you!

Distinguishing Features
No.2 cab front: missing fitting to the left of the center lampbracket: October 1981 until withdrawn.
Non-BIS side: cantrail level air filters: the filter closest to the No.2 cab appears to be a solid metal cover: August 1983 until withdrawn.

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